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Calling all techies: I need serious help!
« on: October 05, 2008, 09:23:53 AM »
*takes a deep breath* This is going to be a lengthy post, but I want to give as much information as possible so as to receive the best help. ALL and ANY thoughts are GREATLY appreciated, as I am a complete noob when it comes to hardware and I need help! :P Detailed responses will receive my eternal gratitude. (Like, if you live nearby I'll buy you something from Quiznos. :P)

So, I may be moving out on my own soon, and I don't have my own computer. I'm not exactly overflowing with monehs, so basically I want to know what computer would be the best value for my dollar.

Currently, I use my mom's computer as more or less a glorified MP3 player, along with browsing the internet, organizing my ideas in word processors, and occasionally dicking around in The Sims 2 and Photoshop CS2. Oh, photography is also a bit of a hobby of mine, and I need to be able to install the appropriate software for my digital camera if I want to do anything with my work.

Also, I need a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers. They don't have to be fancy- durability is what I'm most interested in. No LCD monitors that spontaneously break or anything. (I don't care about CRT v. LCD either, so.) I can't afford to constantly replace computer parts.

ALSO, in the ten minutes I used Vista (when I was showing a friend of mine how to use her laptop), I wanted to gouge my eyes out. I'm sure everyone has heard horror stories about Vista, and I have no intention of using it. I've also heard horror stories about uninstalling Vista and installing XP, but I'm under the impression that unless I get a Mac I won't have a choice.

I might even get a Mac if it happens to be a better dollar value (I get the impression they're overpriced, though). I'm not trying to start a Mac v. PC flamewar either, I just want to know which one would be better on a budget. (I know it's kinda silly to look for an objective comparison of the two on the internet, of all places, but I can try.)

These are the specs of the computer I currently use:

Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.26GHz
Speed: 2.27 GHz
RAM: 511 mb
OS: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Video card: NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200 (GeForce2 MX 100/200)
Sound card: SoundMAX Digital Audio

I find this computer runs quite well with maintenance and if I could find something similar to it that would make me happy.

So, to summarize, what I'm looking for is:

-a desktop system (unless a desktop that meets my requirements is too expensive and a laptop happens to be cheaper. I don't like laptops, though)
-NOT using Vista (I like windows XP, it's what I've used for a long time and it seems pretty decent)
-DURABILITY, I can't have it breaking on me
-not exceedingly slow, I.e. I should be able to run firefox, photoshop, msn, and Windows Media Player all at the same time.
-this is a minor point, but upgradability would be preferred, as this computer will probably be sticking around with me for awhile
-$400 - $500 range for the actual computer itself. I simply cannot afford to spend $1000 on a computer, even if it is a better value. I don't even know how much $400 - $500 is nowadays, but it's what I have available.

Now, if it's cheaper to build my own computer, any ideas on what parts to buy and how to go about it would be great too. I would have to enlist the help of a certain sibling for this (ehehe), and it sounds like a pain in the ass, but if I were able to save a substantial amount of money this way (and said third party would be willing to help me), I'd jump on it.

These are the three cheapest (non-refurbished) desktops systems on Futureshop.ca:
Compaq Pavilion AMD Athlon LE-1640 2.7GHz Computer (SR5413WM), $299
Acer AMD Athlon LE-1640 2.7GHz Computer (AM1200-E1520B), $299
Acer AMD Athlon X2 4400+ 2.3GHz Computer (AM1200-E1521A) - Bilingual, $379

The first one sounds good. What do you guys think?

Feel free to ask me for any additional information! And again, thanks in advance!
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Re: Calling all techies: I need serious help!
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2008, 09:06:38 PM »
I'm not too good with this, but I can advise one thing:
Buying used computers is not a bad thing, because most of them (I find) have XP on them. And they can be cheap AND good. My personal opinion, don't get compaq or acer, they tend to be...well..not that good? Past experience, and stories I've heard.
Sorry that isn't very helpful, but I thought I'd just tell you that, just in case, y'know? >_>
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Re: Calling all techies: I need serious help!
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2008, 09:16:34 PM »

I wouldn't get a Compaq either. too proprietary.
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Re: Calling all techies: I need serious help!
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2008, 09:01:01 AM »
Unfortunately, any new computer you get is going to have a lot of proprietary crap, it's the nature of new PCs. Let me make sure I'm completely clear. You want a computer to play music, surf the web, play the occasional non-memory intensive game and photography?
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2008, 04:06:28 PM »
Yeah, that's it. Although, I'll probably want The Sims 3 when it comes out. I don't mind shopping second hand; I just need to know what to look for. CA is already going to give me the name of a place that has good deals :P
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2008, 06:11:15 PM »
XP is always preferable, but the more recent software, like Sim3 will be, will most likely utilize some of the vista functionality more efficiently. I would recommend a system with at least 3gb of memory, preferably 4, and no less than a 2.4ghz dual core processor. If you are feeling adventurous, you can have a custom system built for cheap, and I'm sure Mike and CA can do it for you pro bono.

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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2008, 06:24:18 PM »

-points up-

...what he said ^^
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Re: Calling all techies: I need serious help!
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2008, 10:17:47 PM »
You can get 4 Gigs of ram in a desktop computer these days? *cough* I'm not out of the loop or anything...

And yeah, XP rather than Vista. I'd be happy to put it together, if you fund the parts.

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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2008, 11:09:34 PM »
You can get desktop systems with 8...
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Re: Calling all techies: I need serious help!
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2008, 09:18:47 PM »
Well, I think my course of action is leaning towards second-hand/home-made. :) Now I just have to find out if I'm actually moving before buying anything...

Thanks everyone :) Might necro-post in the future for more information.
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Re: Calling all techies: I need serious help!
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2008, 10:26:39 AM »
Good sites to visit for purchasing parts:

Newegg Canada
NCIX (canada based  :o)
Geeks.com
Buy.com
Tiger Direct
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Re: Calling all techies: I need serious help!
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2008, 11:06:57 AM »
Tiger Direct.ca

Fix'd.

They are physically located not too far away from us, actually.

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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2008, 02:34:31 PM »
Huh, got the rest but missed that one somehow. Oh well.
It is kinda nice, both newegg and Geeks.com are less than two hours from where I live. I order stuff standard (5-10) shipping in a day or two.
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